campbell brown used to be in our business. she thinks it is. >> what i think it is really strange is you can graduate high school without taking a class in media. the phone, internet, how it can impact you. i don't know how you can graduate without taking a class in media. >> how it impacts the truth? >> yes, and how it makes you think about things you weren't thinking about before, impacts you. >> that's a sophisticated answer. >> we tried. >> i've got to do a little praising of this guy. "far from heaven" with julianne moore was amazing. >> thank you. >> like our government -- this guy add marriage that wasn't real. and it's horrendous, that situation. >> what a situation to be in. >> you're married to julianne moore and you're not interested. >> right. >> "breaking away," i don't think there's a person watching this show that doesn't consider it one of their personal experiences in life. why do you think that grabbed everyone, the working class kids against the swells in college. >> that was another midwestern story, really